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Sunday, June 17, 2012

Interview with Jacob Yowell

I recently interviewed Jacob Yowell of local band 8 Balls and a Box to discuss the challenges of being your own booking agent.  Here is what he had to say on the subject.


What have you found to be the most difficult aspect of a negotiation when booking a gig?

            The most difficult thing I’ve seen is that when you’re not big enough for everyone to know who you are, it’s harder to get everything you want out of a deal.  You sort of have to kind of prove yourself with maybe a less than perfect deal a few times before you have real pull.  Anyone can talk, and some people are very good at talking themselves up, but I’ve found that backing up your talk, and being a man of your word, and delivering more than you say you will are the real keys to being successful.  I’ve found that the second time you deal with someone about booking a gig is a lot easier than the first, it’s a lot easier to get what you want.

Has there been any particular experience that was especially trying or made you feel like you would not be able to successfully negotiate a deal?

            I have not really had any experience where I thought we couldn’t reach a deal.  It’s all about being flexible, and sometimes dealing with a less than perfect deal to get your name out there, at least at first.  After that, once you’ve proven yourself, it becomes a lot easier because you sort of have a record of successes (and maybe a failure or two) to show to someone and say, “look at what we’ve done.  This is what we can offer you, and what we can deliver.”  And then it becomes easier to get what you want out of a deal.

What about an experience that made you feel as though your skills as a negotiator were particularly strong?

            There have been two times that come to mind here.  Both have been gigs where a certain price to be paid for the gig had been established, and we came in and did what we do, played the shows, they were very successful, and we ended up getting paid more than the price we had settled on.  That felt good because we exceeded the expectations of the club owner, and in turn, we were well taken care of.  Then when it was time to set up the next gig there, we were able to work out more money from the start, because the last time had gone well.

What do you feel is the key to successfully negotiating an agreement for a gig?

            I think that knowing what you’re worth, knowing what you can deliver on, having confidence in yourself and what you can do, along with a certain amount of humility, are the two biggest things.  You have to have a certain bottom line, for instance, you won’t settle for less than a certain amount for a gig, whatever that number may be, based on what you know you can bring to the club owner or whomever you may be working with.  And you also have to take into consideration that the club owner may not have seen you before, or may not have heard of you, and therefore doesn’t know what you can bring.  You may think you’re the greatest musician in the world, but they may not know that, so you have to have a certain amount of humility to say, I’ll give some slack the first time we’re here, to show what we can do.  You have to be confident without being arrogant, and let the performance speak for you, and then the next time you deal with that person, you can press harder for more because you have shown that you will hold up your end of the bargain.

What advice would you offer to anyone entering your industry who feels that they are not a particularly strong negotiator?  How will this help them to achieve success?

            Just do it.  The first couple of times it can be nerve wracking, but like anything in life, the more you practice and do something, the easier it becomes.  Be confident in your abilities to get done what you say you will, and working out the details will become easy.